Tom Gilson at the Ratio Christie blog has made a couple of threads talking about the morality of atheists versus the morality of Christians. He is examining the argument that atheists are more moral because the good works they do in this life are not motivated by rewards in the next. Mr Gilson attempts to clarify the position of the reward that a Christian is looking for in This One.

This may be even harder for atheists to grasp. I am very eagerly looking forward to heaven. Read the biblical descriptions and it looks pretty good: No crying, no tears, for “the former things have passed away.” Streets of gold, yes, that, too.

But if someone told me that heaven would be all that without Jesus Christ I’d turn and spit. I wouldn’t be interested. The idea is appalling. What I really want in heaven is fellowship with the ones I love, especially with the greatest of them all, Jesus Christ.

It makes me wonder if he has thought about the logistics of that at all? The Reverend at my childhood church once made the point that if he could choose between have Jesus on  Earth as a physical teacher, or the Holy Spirit working with mankind, his first inclination would be to have Jesus But he knew this would be an irrational choice because Jesus is just one man, whereas the Holy Spirit can be with all mankind all the time. With that in mind, let’s do some math …

There are currently over 2 billion people alive who identify as Christian. Now probably some of them are lying or mistaken, and will not be making it to Heaven. Likewise, we have no idea how many Christians have already been saved and we don’t know how long before Christ’s return and the 1000 years of peace before mankind’s story on Earth is wrapped up. But for the sake of round numbers, let’s lowball and say the number of faithful in Heaven is an even two billion people.

I think we can safely say they would all like some one on one time with Jesus. Who wouldn’t’? So if Jesus makes an hour meeting the standard (and also doesn’t sleep, eat or do anything else with his time except talk to his followers) then Tom Gilson will need to wait 228,310 and a half years. For an hour of Jesus undivided attention.

Maybe he wouldn’t mind being part of some group time with Jesus. Say Tom  and 11 others join Jesus for a late night supper. You could be part of a 3 hour meal with Jesus every 57,000 years.

Or maybe you want to see him give a sermon (although I think that is stretching the definition of “fellowship”). A venue like Wembley Stadium, seating 100,00 would mean Tom could attend a 2 hour sermon every four and a half years.

Let’s eliminate the last one, because I wouldn’t class that as fellowship with Jesus anymore than watching Him preach on TV would be. So, on our conservative estimation, tens of thousands of years must pass before you can spend an hour or two with Jesus. To me this would equate to spending an eternity in Heaven without the fellowship of Jesus.

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